Angel Fox: Embracing Identity and Hustle
Dr. Stance is joined by the fabulous Angel Fox, and let me tell you, this episode is a powerhouse of inspiration and real talk! We dive right into Angel's journey from foster care to becoming a voice for the trans community, and trust me, her story is one for the books. Angel shares her experiences navigating the challenges of being a trans person in foster care, breaking down barriers, and standing up for her truth—it's both uplifting and eye-opening! We also get into the nitty-gritty of DL (down low) men, relationships, and how society often fails to recognize the beauty and struggles of trans individuals. So, if you're ready for some heartfelt laughs and a sprinkle of sass, tune in because this episode is all about turning your hustle into a legacy!
Transcript
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Speaker A:What's up, y'?
Speaker A:All?
Speaker A:Y' all know who it is.
Speaker A:Dr. Stance with turning your hustle into a dang on legacy.
Speaker A:I have the infamous Angel Fox in the building.
Speaker A:Period, period, period.
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker A:Just so y' all know, Mrs. Fox is transitional housing program.
Speaker A:As one of my first trends, I was extremely excited to take this kid because, first of all, I think you were 17 when you tapped in, actually.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You were 17 when we first met, and you were still in a foster care home.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the reason I fell for this kid, because you did your own due diligence and reached out to the other foster care program to, like, move around.
Speaker A:You were on your business.
Speaker A:You stood on business.
Speaker B:I mean, I had to.
Speaker B:Nobody else was really, you know.
Speaker A:And I stood in, I came in with my cape, and I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:She kept tapping in until she was 18 on the dot.
Speaker A:We moved you in the day of your birthday, or was it the next day?
Speaker A:I think the day of the next day.
Speaker B:Yeah, the day on my birthday, period.
Speaker A:When she hit 18, we had her.
Speaker A:Like Mr. Neal said, look, we put some in there, okay?
Speaker A:Because we want to house him.
Speaker A:She deserve her own spot.
Speaker A:So she's in be with luxurious fostering.
Speaker A:And listen, she's been an absolute pleasure and a headache at the same damn time.
Speaker A:But I love Ms. Angela Fox.
Speaker A:Extremely talented.
Speaker A:Y' all know, we got a Show coming up February 13th.
Speaker A:She's definitely gonna be a star there performing, period.
Speaker A:But I specifically wanted her on here one because she is my first trans.
Speaker A:And, you know, I think it's amazing.
Speaker A:We take everybody, but I also wanted you to have a platform and tell your story like you wanna educate, as you said.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker A:One about DL men, about being trans, about being.
Speaker A:Being in foster care, period.
Speaker A:Like, you are literally going to history in my program.
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:I'm so.
Speaker A:You the first.
Speaker A:Everything okay?
Speaker A:Period.
Speaker A:Tell me, how did you get in foster care?
Speaker A:Puddin.
Speaker B:So we got time.
Speaker B:It's like a long story, but to keep it, you know, my mother, she died, like, she died when I was pretty young from brain cancer.
Speaker B:And my dad, he's always been in jail, so, yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker B:You know, I never had, like, a permanent house.
Speaker B:The only permanent house I really had was when I was with my grandmother on my dad's side.
Speaker B:That was the longest I've stayed anywhere, period was years.
Speaker B:And then she passed away from bone marrow cancer, so.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then after that, I went with her son.
Speaker B:I don't really consider him My uncle, but he's a pastor.
Speaker B:And you know me, I'm a creative.
Speaker B:So we definitely bumped heads.
Speaker B:Yeah, bumped heads.
Speaker B:Some of y' all know him as Pastor C.L.
Speaker B:willis.
Speaker B:That's my uncle.
Speaker B:And, yeah, it wasn't just basically my whole life is like a soap opera, really.
Speaker B:Just a bunch of stuff going on.
Speaker B:So I first started transitioning in the
Speaker A:womanhood.
Speaker B:Yeah, transitioning into womanhood in, like, the seventh or eighth grade.
Speaker B:And so he hated my guts for that, you know, because he was trying to.
Speaker B:He was trying to, like.
Speaker B:I guess he thought it, like, made him look good to, like.
Speaker B:Cause this whole time I'm with my brother.
Speaker B:We split up after I went.
Speaker B:Actually went into foster care, but it was like a guardianship.
Speaker B:So, you know, he hated my guts.
Speaker B:He was very abusive.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:He was just, you know, it gave.
Speaker B:DL it gave.
Speaker B:I'm living in my truth and, you know, he hates my guts for it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that didn't work out.
Speaker B:Like, I had got a first.
Speaker B:I don't know how to explain it, but once I started trans, I've always known.
Speaker B:I've always known I was trans since
Speaker A:that's what I was gonna ask you.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've always, like, felt like I was born in the wrong body since, like, really since I was like, a young age.
Speaker B:Like, before my mother died, I used to play dress up.
Speaker B:Like, that's when I really felt.
Speaker B:Seen is.
Speaker A:How old were you?
Speaker B:I was like six, seven.
Speaker B:And, you know, we would always play dress up and, you know, she would let me wear her clothes.
Speaker B:We would do a fashion show in her heels and stuff.
Speaker B:And, you know, that's the time I so seen and, like, that feeling of just being who you are and living in your truth and, you know, not caring what people have to say because, you know, my mom accepts me.
Speaker B:So
Speaker A:that's why I love trans women.
Speaker A:Me personally, because like you said, there is a lot of DL people and not living in their truth.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:To me, I take my hat off to you because, listen, your truth is your truth and you happy.
Speaker A:You know, who wants to sit and hide from who they really want to be.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So I appreciate trans women because at the end of the day, it's somebody for everybody to.
Speaker A:Did you ever like girls ever in your life?
Speaker B:I'm bisexual.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:I like girls.
Speaker B:I like girls.
Speaker B:I like boys.
Speaker A:Do you like other trans women?
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:You know, I look at myself as, like a sexually liberated queen.
Speaker B:You know, like, I don't let statistics and you supposed to be with this person, you supposed to be with that person.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't let that, like, defy who I am.
Speaker B:Like, you know, if we're on the same energy, you know, they call that.
Speaker A:Is that binary or.
Speaker A:What's the new terminology?
Speaker A:It's a terminology for that.
Speaker B:For what?
Speaker A:For when you're sexually liberated and it's.
Speaker A:Is it binary?
Speaker A:Like, when you don't have no preference in she, he.
Speaker A:Trans men?
Speaker B:Well, that's pansexual.
Speaker A:There it is.
Speaker B:So pansexual.
Speaker B:That's what it is, is where, like, pansexual is where, like, I don't really care about what gender.
Speaker B:You could be non binary.
Speaker B:You could be a girl, you could be a boy, you could be trans, you could be this.
Speaker B:You know, it's a bunch of pronouns and gender.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Me personally, I feel like it's just a little complicated.
Speaker B:But, you know, like, at the end of the day, if that's.
Speaker B:They want to live their life as a cat, that's them.
Speaker B:Like, let them live their life as long as it's not affecting anybody.
Speaker B:So that's pansexual.
Speaker B:But the reason why I consider myself as bisexual is because I. I'm interested in women and men and I see straight.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker A:Oh, no, you say everybody.
Speaker A:I was gonna say straight men and
Speaker B:women, but you said everybody, so I know I'm bisexual.
Speaker B:I don't know if I would date a Z or zur or a monkey or.
Speaker B:You know, I don't know if I would do that, but I would definitely talk, Definitely have talked to biological women, biological men, trans men and trans women.
Speaker B:And, you know, that's the gender they identify as, so, you know, girls and boys.
Speaker B:So I don't really.
Speaker B:I don't really think too much in it.
Speaker B:You know, I just do me, period.
Speaker A:Well, what do you think about the DL and what does tell the people what that represents and what that means?
Speaker A:You know, I had to have you on here just to speak about it because it's a lot of it going on.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:DL man, I should have spoke before this.
Speaker B:DL, men are people who, like, DL stands for down low.
Speaker B:And it's people who like something like either trans women or men or even both, but they just don't.
Speaker B:They're very secretive.
Speaker B:It's like a secrecy, like, I'm on the down low, can't nobody know type.
Speaker A:It's a whole society back there.
Speaker B:I actually have a song called Down Low.
Speaker A:Oh, I heard it and I love it.
Speaker A:I would love for you to perform that.
Speaker A:I'm Making folks uncomfortable.
Speaker B:I got a song for the down low man.
Speaker B:Cause it's like I want to.
Speaker B:I want my songs to where like, it's good, it sounds good, the music, the beat is fire, the bars.
Speaker B:But it's like relatable.
Speaker B:Like, I want trans women and, you know, gay men to be like, you know, like, I've dealt with DL men, like, you know, and I just, I'm trying to like change the narrative.
Speaker B:Like, me personally, I'm not talking, I'm not talking to a DL man.
Speaker B:If it's not benefiting me.
Speaker B:I'm not just like on the down low, like, because I know I'm that bitch and I know what, like, I don't gotta say much.
Speaker B:So as they say if I'm talking to a DL man, they gotta have some coin.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:They gotta have the coin and they gotta really like, you know.
Speaker B:Cause I've had basketball players, rappers, niggas
Speaker A:from Oakland too, I'm sure.
Speaker B:Niggas from Oakland, Absolutely.
Speaker B:And it's like, you know, like I've gotten flown out luxury.
Speaker A:It's a whole secret society.
Speaker B:Luxury liter, literally.
Speaker B:Secret society, luxury apartments, all types of shit.
Speaker B:Good ass food.
Speaker B:Like, you know, so it's like.
Speaker B:But do I like pour my heart into a DM man?
Speaker B:Because no, at the end of the day, DL men mostly, I don't know, it just some people, like, unfortunately, they're insecure in themselves, so they like being a secret.
Speaker B:They like.
Speaker B:But it's not like I'm not gonna pour my heart into somebody who doesn't want to be seen with me.
Speaker B:Like, you know.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:I applaud you for that.
Speaker B:If it's not beneficiary, you know, I'm out the door, period.
Speaker A:Listen, I respect it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Do you think that coming in foster care that.
Speaker A:That has affected you in any way when it comes to the type of men that you do decide or people that you do date?
Speaker B:So being in foster care, because like I had said, you know, my uncle, I started just once, I just, I just at some point, like, I was just tired of just trying to live, try to be somebody who I'm not, you know, live for other people, live for other people.
Speaker B:Trying to look good for the church.
Speaker B:Like, I was sick of it.
Speaker B:Like, I still believe in God, I still have faith, sing the gospel, all types, all of it.
Speaker B:But at the end of the day, some churches you, they say come as you are, but they really don't mean that.
Speaker B:Churches will, you know, they will Literally banish you if you're trans, if you're gay, if you're different.
Speaker B:But you already know.
Speaker B:I'm about to say the pedophiles, rapistes, they let us sweep that shit under the rug.
Speaker B:And that's the.
Speaker B:You know, all that shit.
Speaker B:Like, you hear tuh.
Speaker B:They like to sweep that stuff under the rug.
Speaker B:So it's just like, I'm not.
Speaker B:Like, I actually wanted to go into foster care like I wanted, because it was that bad of a environment for me.
Speaker B:Like, it was just terrible.
Speaker B:Like, literally, like, me and my brother, we was forced to learn piano.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:And if we didn't get a key right, we would get beat, like, by my uncle, who's supposed to be this good pastor, you know, who's supposed to be, you know, this really good man.
Speaker B:Generous, heart of gold and all types of stuff.
Speaker B:So it's like, you know, he was abusive.
Speaker B:My whole family was abusive.
Speaker B:Like, they would just.
Speaker B:Like, they were very verbally abusive and they were physically abusive.
Speaker B:So it's like, I've been through a lot of abuse and I've been molested and all types of anything you can think I've been through it.
Speaker B:So it's like, I didn't think it was worth it.
Speaker B:I actually had overdosed when I was in my uncle's care.
Speaker B:Cause it got that bad off.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What were you.
Speaker A:What was your choice?
Speaker B:So basically, my uncle, he would receive me and my brother's benefits.
Speaker B:Cause we was like, you know, that's same mom, same dad.
Speaker B:So he had us to.
Speaker B:He's like a few years older than me.
Speaker B:He received our benefits, got all of our money, but he was like, making us live with, like, random people.
Speaker A:What does that mean?
Speaker A:Explain it.
Speaker B:Okay, so, for example, like, we could do the.
Speaker B:Like, if it just gets too much for them, they say they just can't handle it.
Speaker B:Like, for example, they made me live with my uncle, and he's hella old, and he's an amputee and all types of shit.
Speaker B:Like diapers and shit, smelly, pissy, all types.
Speaker B:It wasn't a good environment.
Speaker B:I feel like if it was they kid, they wouldn't be like, oh, let me just stuff they kid over there.
Speaker B:I don't think they would do that.
Speaker B:And then I've stayed with another church member and all types of stuff while he was making the money.
Speaker B:And I was like, not really.
Speaker B:I never really got no clothes, never really got no shoes.
Speaker B:You know, he would always cut me bald.
Speaker B:Like, it was just terrible.
Speaker B:Like, it Just wasn't worth living.
Speaker B:And then he made me stay with my stepmother, who married my dad while he was in prison.
Speaker B:And she was very abusive.
Speaker B:So it's like, I'm like, life is not worth living.
Speaker B:Life is not worth living.
Speaker B:And I was only like, 14 at that time.
Speaker B:And I had tried, like, first I had tried to get cleaning supplies and drink all of it.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:It was terrible.
Speaker B:And they was like, oh, I'm faking.
Speaker B:They didn't call the hospital.
Speaker B:So then one day.
Speaker B:One day.
Speaker B:One day.
Speaker B:This was like a few days after, I just was really like, life not worth living.
Speaker B:So I seen my stepmother's pills and I just took it.
Speaker B:I didn't know what it was.
Speaker B:I guess it was for her bones or something.
Speaker B:And I just took it and overdosed.
Speaker B:And, you know, I was in, like a coma for a minute.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you were 14, 15 at best.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was 14.
Speaker B:I was 14.
Speaker B:So it just was a downhill from there.
Speaker B:It just wasn't good.
Speaker A:But you found.
Speaker A:When I first found you at 16, you did go to a decent foster care home though, right?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:You got some good parents.
Speaker B:So after a few group homes and.
Speaker B:I've been to so many foster homes.
Speaker B:I've been to so many foster homes.
Speaker B:But towards the end, you know, around that time, I finally found, like, the right family for me.
Speaker B:Shout out to them, period.
Speaker B:Cause that's really.
Speaker B:My mom and my dad, they really treat me and, you know, make me feel, you know, like a baby.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, you know, and.
Speaker B:But I knew that, like, my time was running short.
Speaker B:Like, any day.
Speaker B:I'm finna be 18, so I wanna have a plan.
Speaker B:I wanna be on my own.
Speaker B:And I was like, what better place to come to than Oakland?
Speaker B:Because it's like, it's not really a music scene where I'm from Fairfield, so, you know, I wanted to move out here, be on my own.
Speaker B:And try to blow up your career.
Speaker B:Yeah, try to blow up my career.
Speaker B:And, you know, that's what I've been doing ever since, is just, you know, hustling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they know me.
Speaker A:Yeah, they do.
Speaker A:They definitely know you.
Speaker B:They know me.
Speaker A:They know Angel Fox.
Speaker A:Why did you name yourself Angel Fox?
Speaker A:What, is that crazy?
Speaker B:Okay, so do you know the show Pose?
Speaker A:Pose for me, Natalie?
Speaker A:Nah, I don't know that one.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:No, but it's this show on hbo.
Speaker B:Pose.
Speaker B:It's a really deep.
Speaker B:And I suggest everybody go watch it, especially people with, like, trans.
Speaker B:Like, I suggest they watch Pose.
Speaker B:Cause it's about.
Speaker B:It's in the 80s and it's about the AIDS epidemic and stuff and how, you know, a ballroom and all types of, you know, just the life of trans people, gay people, and, you know, them losing each other and, you know, stuff that they really experienced during that time and the discrimination and all of that.
Speaker B:And, you know, the murders, that was the really thing.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not gonna spoil it for you, but one trans woman, she was murdered because she was a sex worker.
Speaker B:Mm.
Speaker B:And you know, she had to make ends meet.
Speaker B:Nobody will hire.
Speaker B:She's trans.
Speaker B:You know, it's like the 80s.
Speaker B:So she was on sex work and then she was murdered.
Speaker B:And it was just so sad because in a story, she was just very, like, very like, she, like, I see myself in her.
Speaker B:Like, she wants to be a star.
Speaker B:She knows she's a star.
Speaker B:She wants everybody to see.
Speaker B:But because of that era, in that day, nobody is trying to accept it.
Speaker B:See her and, you know, it made me cry when she died.
Speaker B:Like, literally.
Speaker B:This is on where hbo.
Speaker B:She was a dark skinned, beautiful, black trans woman and she was murdered.
Speaker B:And this is based off the documentary called Paris is Burning.
Speaker B:You should watch that too.
Speaker A:Tell me, text me all the shows.
Speaker B:I'm definitely about to do that.
Speaker B:It's very educational.
Speaker B:It very much taught me about some things.
Speaker B:And like, this is really life, like that is really realistic for people in the community.
Speaker B:And it just broke my heart when she died because that stuff is really real.
Speaker B:Trans women die almost every day.
Speaker A:Why do you think that is?
Speaker B:Because men are so insecure.
Speaker B:They are so insecure and they think
Speaker A:that
Speaker B:it's just a whole.
Speaker A:Get to it.
Speaker A:I need to hear it.
Speaker B:They're just so insecure and it's like, you know, they just don't want to live in they truth.
Speaker B:And because they don't want to live in they truth, the trans woman has to suffer.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Like, I've had times where like this one rapper, I was, you know, was trying to talk to me and all types of stuff and, you know, he told me he was gonna kill me if I ever said anything or if he seen me with something.
Speaker B:Just some weird controlling shit like I had to bounce.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But yeah, like, that stuff is real.
Speaker B:Like, I've had Girl La La.
Speaker B:You heard about Girl La La?
Speaker B:No, you don't haven't heard about Girl La La?
Speaker A:I'm a little.
Speaker A:I'm working on this.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:She is a trans woman, very popular.
Speaker B:She's a very popular influencer who always gets her hair and makeup done and Stuff and I guess her boyfriend killed her because she was trans or she was trans.
Speaker B:The boyfriend basically came out for her and she's like, she wants to break up with him because he was very abusive, you know, man, very abusive, Biting her, all types of shit, just weird shit.
Speaker B:So she was like, you know, she wants to leave.
Speaker B:And he's like, his reason of killing her was saying I came out for her.
Speaker B:It's like no regular women is going to date me.
Speaker B:And I'm like, there are women in this world that don't care that are securing themselves, like, you know, but it's just sad because she died and then her dad was trying to bury her as a boy and she was very like, like, it's just like, you got to think like that's not what your daughter would have wanted.
Speaker B:She wouldn't have wanted to go bald headed and regular ass boy clothes.
Speaker B:Like she would have wanted to go out in style.
Speaker B:Like they had her.
Speaker B:Truth in her truth.
Speaker B:They had her up at her funeral.
Speaker B:I was hot.
Speaker B:They had her up.
Speaker B:They going to put her in a robe.
Speaker B:Like you really think if that was her last, that was her farewell?
Speaker B:You really think she would want to.
Speaker B:Yeah, she wears the robe every but it's like you really think she want to wear that?
Speaker B:And all the money people donated to that funeral and she's in a robe and a cheap ass wig.
Speaker B:I know she's turning in her grave and I feel so sorry.
Speaker B:I just wish that, I don't know, I just wish somebody in her family spoke up and like this is not what she would have wanted.
Speaker B:Like honor her.
Speaker B:Like she was already murdered in a brutal way.
Speaker B:Like honor her.
Speaker B:And you know, it's sad, that's because that's really the case.
Speaker B:Like that's very common for trans women to die and then their parents, you know, they get buried him as a boy.
Speaker B:Yeah, very.
Speaker B:It's so disgusting.
Speaker B:So disgusting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll tell you this, my daughter, my biological daughter is bi and so I'm extremely accepting of who she is, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:I never judged her.
Speaker A:I didn't even give a shit, to be honest with you.
Speaker A:I don't give a damn what she decided.
Speaker A:Like at one point in my life when I was younger, I thought I was bi, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:I didn't dealt with the women's and the ladies and you know, the world probably don't know that.
Speaker A:But now you know, God damn it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:It's a lot of things we don't know about people.
Speaker B:I know it be the people.
Speaker B:That's the thing about DL.
Speaker B:It be the people you never would know.
Speaker B:Like, literally.
Speaker B:I know it's this stigma that you would know, but it's like you never would know.
Speaker B:If I was to say people right now, that's in my DMs right now, y' all would be.
Speaker A:I see your following base.
Speaker A:I have nothing to say, but I see it.
Speaker B:Like, what?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, like it could be anybody.
Speaker B:It could be.
Speaker B:It could be anybody.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:And that's why I really, really wanted you on the show.
Speaker A:For educational reasons.
Speaker A:Because a lot of people aren't living in they truth one and to tell people how it is being in the foster care system as a trans.
Speaker A:Because a lot of people don't know that it's different.
Speaker B:It's definitely different.
Speaker A:It's different.
Speaker B:And I've definitely had a lot of discrimination in the foster care.
Speaker B:Like, I've literally.
Speaker B:I've had.
Speaker B:I have so many crazy stories, but I was at a foster home and it was a foster mom and it was a foster dad.
Speaker B:He was always calling me, like, he was always purposely saying sir and shit.
Speaker B:And this is by the time I'm like, full, like, tough.
Speaker B:And it's like, I just think, like, the foster care system really needs to, like, really evaluate these people and see if they're ready for a trans use in their home.
Speaker B:Because that stuff can really, like, affect them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's just weird shit.
Speaker B:And then a group home.
Speaker A:Tell me about that.
Speaker A:Cause I was gonna open one.
Speaker A:Cause, you know, as you can see, my program, I'm your first program.
Speaker A:It's none like min.
Speaker A:Just so you know, one.
Speaker A:Cause you got Dr. Stan's period, but it's none really like mine because we're more culturally in tuned with all genders, all races, you know, we have those lived experience.
Speaker A:You got Shay Shay.
Speaker A:Everybody loves Shay Shay, you know, I know she get on your nerves sometimes, you know, but you have people that actually answer the phone.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of programs you go to, they don't answer the phone, they don't check on you, they don't say anything.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've been through that.
Speaker A:But facts, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So even just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've definitely dealt with.
Speaker B:It's like a lot of negligence.
Speaker B:And it's like part of me trying to get like what I want to do.
Speaker B:Like, I just want to really like.
Speaker B:Because not only am I a rapper, but I am an advocate and I definitely want to advocate for foster youth in the future.
Speaker B:I definitely want to advocate for like trans people, period.
Speaker B:And just advocate.
Speaker B:I really want to show, you know, everybody, like you could do it too.
Speaker B:Like it's never been done before, but you could do it like it's our time.
Speaker B:Like it's really never gonna be our time until we, you know, I think
Speaker A:you are gonna set the tone.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:I don't think I can name one female trans rapper except for I think Brand.
Speaker A:They on Wild N Out.
Speaker A:What's her now?
Speaker A:I just bought the little pickles.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:You know the pickles that everybody do with the Fruit Loop and the Cheetos and stuff.
Speaker A:Kandi, look him up.
Speaker A:He's on.
Speaker A:Look her up.
Speaker A:She's on.
Speaker B:But that's not a trans.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:Oh, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:That's like a he, she, do.
Speaker A:I see.
Speaker A:And I wouldn't even know what to call.
Speaker B:I would call it drag.
Speaker B:No shade.
Speaker B:I would call it drag.
Speaker B:Because some days now, let's get into it.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker B:There are some people who dress as a women and dress as a boy.
Speaker B:Like they have this caricature that's a drag queen.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That's why I was saying living like a day to day basis.
Speaker B:This is my identity.
Speaker B:That's a trans woman.
Speaker A:So there's no trans woman rappers then that I know about.
Speaker A:Do you know of any?
Speaker B:I know a few that just is coming out like the celebrities.
Speaker B:Well, not like big.
Speaker B:I don't really know, like a list.
Speaker A:Not one.
Speaker A:It's not one.
Speaker B:I don't really know one.
Speaker A:It's going to be Angel Fox because I literally said the tone.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's going to be Angel Fox.
Speaker B:And it's like, let's get into this.
Speaker B:I don't really get like from the community in Oakland.
Speaker B:I don't really get pushed.
Speaker B:I don't really get support from the people who claim to support young creatives and rappers and all types of stuff.
Speaker B:But yet, because I'm that bitch, everybody knows my name.
Speaker B:Everybody knows my name.
Speaker B:And it's like if I'm doing this as young as I am right now, just imagine when I'm like 28, I'll be so big.
Speaker B:Cause I'm already like, I'm doing this.
Speaker B:I thought my own events, got my own TV show.
Speaker A:I seen that with the network.
Speaker A:You just asked me about that the other day.
Speaker B:Money TV Network.
Speaker A:Tell the people about that.
Speaker B:Okay, so Money TV Network is a reality television network based in San Francisco by my manager TM credits shout out to him.
Speaker B:And we have a show that I created called North Central Baddies.
Speaker B:So tune in because it's coming soon.
Speaker B:I'm the biggest host, you know, the biggest host, though.
Speaker B:So, you know, it's basically, I'm trying to, like, reinvent how the Bay Area is portrayed.
Speaker B:Like, for example, one of the things I want to do while filming the show, North Central Baddies, is like, do, like, a homeless, like, food giveaway.
Speaker B:You know, like food.
Speaker B:What is it called?
Speaker A:Food giveaway.
Speaker B:Yeah, food giveaway to the home.
Speaker B:Like, give back to the homeless.
Speaker B:Give clothes, you know, connect them with housing.
Speaker B:Like, actually have the baddies, the North Central baddies, you know, given out.
Speaker B:I've never seen a show.
Speaker A:Damn near shouldn't even said nothing.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:I shouldn't have said.
Speaker A:That is genius.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because when you think of baddy, unfortunately.
Speaker A:Shout out to Natalie Nunn.
Speaker A:They're fighting.
Speaker B:Shout out to Natalie Nunn.
Speaker A:They fighting.
Speaker A:You know, it's violence, you know, and it portrays a lot of women as, you know, hood rats, ratchet.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:It's entertaining.
Speaker B:It's definitely entertaining because I love.
Speaker B:It's what we like to see.
Speaker B:It's gonna be drama on my show, for sure.
Speaker B:It's definitely gonna be drama, but it's gonna be organic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's not gonna be scripted or not.
Speaker B:I want it to be organic, but it's like when, you know, like, 12 girls in one house, something bound to happen.
Speaker B:Something.
Speaker B:Something gonna happen, and we just gotta get it on camera.
Speaker A:Now, are they all gonna be trans or is it just.
Speaker A:Just the LGBTQ community?
Speaker B:It's gonna be a mix because it's like a baddie to me, you know, you a baddie.
Speaker B:You handle your business.
Speaker B:You look good.
Speaker B:You know how to act like, you know, it's really a baddie to me.
Speaker B:It's just somebody who stands up for what they believe in, like, you know, and don't take no for an answer.
Speaker B:So I feel like a trans could be a baddie.
Speaker B:A regular girl could be a baddie.
Speaker B:Even a stud can be a baddie.
Speaker B:We have a stud.
Speaker B:Shout out to Coco.
Speaker B:We got a stud on the show as a special guest.
Speaker B:And, you know, like, a baddie is just really a mentality.
Speaker B:It's not, you know, cause, you know, characteristics.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Period.
Speaker A:Well, listen, I'm so glad you came.
Speaker A:You know, you my putting one of my little favorite in my program.
Speaker A:Super cute, super adorable.
Speaker A:You have the best energy.
Speaker A:When your birthday again?
Speaker B:What's your birthday, September 10th.
Speaker B:I'm Scorpio.
Speaker A:I just attract them water signs, you know, I'm fire.
Speaker A:Y' all the only ones that could really Scorpio.
Speaker A:We do it the best.
Speaker B:We do it the best.
Speaker A:Yes, y' all do.
Speaker A:Y' all do.
Speaker A:I give you that.
Speaker A:But I wanted to gift you, you know, I always everybody that come on and give, but I did something different for you, you know, And I'm mad.
Speaker A:I had to change my outfit, you know, I had on the top.
Speaker B:I love a good gift.
Speaker A:I didn't give it all, but I wanted to do something different for you because you different.
Speaker A:So look under your seat.
Speaker A:Every.
Speaker A:Everybody normally gets a robe.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker A:You got one of them coming too.
Speaker A:But I want to give you something extra and different.
Speaker A:So look under your seat.
Speaker A:Kicky.
Speaker A:Ki, ki, ki.
Speaker A:Can you see it?
Speaker A:You might have to look in the front.
Speaker A:Can you pull it out there?
Speaker A:Period?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I gotta take a picture with the box.
Speaker A:You have to.
Speaker B:You have to.
Speaker A:I know it's winter time, so I was like, you know what you always like super cute.
Speaker A:You just have this cute style about you.
Speaker A:Honey, when you dress, when you see
Speaker B:me, I gotta put on for the girls.
Speaker A:No, you put on for the city.
Speaker A:You do more than for the girls.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So I want to just give you one of my books.
Speaker B:A real west coast baddie, period.
Speaker A:I gave you one of my books.
Speaker A:And just a cute little hat and scarf.
Speaker A:Louis Vuitton.
Speaker A:Cause I just think you fancy.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:Louis Vuitton, period is a matching scarf, you know, Cause it's cold.
Speaker A:And then you also.
Speaker B:It's real chilly outside, period.
Speaker A:And I know them S's, but this
Speaker B:is the thing, period.
Speaker B:Listen, this is the bar.
Speaker B:Hoes wait for the summer.
Speaker B:I'm lit all year.
Speaker B:I know a lot of bitches hate me.
Speaker B:I don't fucking care.
Speaker A:Ooh, period.
Speaker B:Did you hear?
Speaker A:Period.
Speaker A:Did you hear?
Speaker A:This is coming from Angel.
Speaker A:Fox.
Speaker B:Angelo Fox.
Speaker A:Everyone please tune in.
Speaker B:I like this.
Speaker B:This classy.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker A:And she gets a Versace rope.
Speaker A:Okay, y' all gets.
Speaker A:She gets a little extra cuz she's stiffer.
Speaker B:So yeah, like.
Speaker B:And I appreciate it.
Speaker B:And I feel seen.
Speaker B:And I just want to, you know, give you your flowers like I appreciate, you know, you give.
Speaker B:Cuz people be scared, you know, they don't, you know, they.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They think about, oh, what other people are going to think.
Speaker A:And yeah, I. I stay far away.
Speaker B:I will cherish this forever.
Speaker A:You better forever.
Speaker A:And like, y' all know I got my event coming.
Speaker A:Ms. Angel Fox will be performing, period.
Speaker A:So I'm, like, so beyond excited about that icon.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm about to shut it down.
Speaker B:I got some new music coming soon.
Speaker B:I got some new music.
Speaker A:Yeah, tell the people.
Speaker A:Tell them to that camera.
Speaker A:What's up?
Speaker B:I got some new music coming soon.
Speaker B:Yeah, your show, it's gonna be lit.
Speaker B:I got my show coming soon.
Speaker B:And then I also got a diss track coming soon.
Speaker A:Oh, Jesus.
Speaker A:Can we say that?
Speaker A:Let's say that for the next episode.
Speaker A:But I do want to ask you this.
Speaker A:What would you tell the foster youth that are currently in the program or even in the world as far as, like, how to keep pushing?
Speaker A:What would you tell them?
Speaker A:Tell them right there in that camera.
Speaker A:What would you tell them?
Speaker B:Honestly?
Speaker B:Find something that you're good at and that you enjoy to do and just, like, you know, like, get a hobby.
Speaker B:You know, surround yourself with people who really fuck with you.
Speaker B:Like, fill them out.
Speaker B:Like, actions speak louder than words and just.
Speaker B:I speak daily affirmations.
Speaker B:My daily affirmations.
Speaker B:I speak my daily affirmations every morning like always in the mirror.
Speaker B:I'm that bitch.
Speaker B:And you know that what Cold Killer said.
Speaker A:Speaking of cold Killer, we trying to get her too, period.
Speaker A:I love me some killer.
Speaker A:I love me some color.
Speaker B:I'm trying to get a collab.
Speaker B:I'm trying to get a collab.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hey, they going to just stick around.
Speaker A:Stay tuned.
Speaker A:I might see what I.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Let me keep doing these numbers and see what I could do.
Speaker A:Cause Angel Fox, this is a star in the making.
Speaker A:Just like Servy Wood, I'm picking stars in the making and legends to be on my shit and my platform.
Speaker A:So I was just honored that you could come on here, tell your story for one.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:And we locked in.
Speaker A:You already know how to find me.
Speaker A:Lord have mercy.
Speaker A:She knows how to find me.
Speaker A:And I definitely know how to find you in that one bedroom apartment.
Speaker A:Coming to you.
Speaker A:Keep it clean, stay good, Stay your butt out of trouble, okay?
Speaker A:But she been doing good in program.
Speaker A:Honestly, I ain't heard no complaints about you.
Speaker A:So thank God.
Speaker B:Just pray for me.
Speaker A:You don't even know.
Speaker A:I do more than pray.
Speaker A:I'll be burning candles, honey.
Speaker A:I like the lights, the incense and everything for all of y'.
Speaker B:All, because, Lord, please, I need it.
Speaker B:Because these.
Speaker A:The people don't know.
Speaker B:They out of control.
Speaker A:They don't know.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I'm going to give you some advice at that sro.
Speaker A:You stay to yourself.
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker A:And buy.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Ain't no other nothing.
Speaker B:Nothing else.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Keep it cute, keep it funky.
Speaker A:You just continue to do you and keep focused on your music, okay?
Speaker A:All right, y'.
Speaker A:All, this is Ms. Angel Fox with Dr. Stance.
Speaker A:Thank you all for tuning in.
Speaker A:We're turning your husband to a legacy.
Speaker A:Will.
Speaker A:Holla.
Speaker A:Period.
